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Discerndamentalist or Pharisee ?

02 Mar

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In case you are not up-to-speed on your emergent church lingo, let me clue you in to a term they use for anyone who does not validate  them by approving of every hair-brained idea they come up with. They call you a pharisee. So, when you see Warren and others do unbiblical things and call them on it…you’re a pharisee. I prefer the term, discerndamentalist.

Playing the Pharisee Card  (excerpted from www.betterthansacrifice.org )

Rick Warren, CEO of Saddleback Church, yesterday played the Pharisee card. He wrote: ‘It drives Pharisees nuts to watch God keep blessing ministries they ridicule & despise. God’s sovereignty is often humorous.’

Now, Rick Warren’s proof of the rightness of his position (and that his opponents are wrong) seems to be based on his claim of God’s ‘blessing’. And, as CEO of Saddleback and self-proclaimed disciple of management guru Peter Drucker, he knows how to apply best 21st century management practice to his business. So, it is important for Mr. Warren to be able to quantify this blessing.

How is God’s blessing measured? Well one easy way, in Mr. Warren’s book, is by seeing how much your church grows. A numerically growing church is a blessed church. Saddleback has grown vastly over the last three decades. So, God must be blessing it. And He must approve of their theology and practice. Quod erat demonstrandum.

The only problem with this, and it is just a teensy-weeny one, is that not all growth is good growth.

Measured on the basis of numerical success, Baal-worship was doing pretty well in ancient Israel. (If you are unfamiliar with the story, now would be a good time to read 1 Kings 18.)

All but a remnant of 7,000 people had bowed the knee to Baal. Thus, the 450 prophets of Baal whom Elijah confronted must have been pretty confident of God’s favour. After all, 450–1, that’s pretty good evidence of whose side God is on, right?

At least, it must have seemed that way.

Until Elijah routed the prophets of Baal and had them all executed at Brook Kishon.

It turned out that Elijah was the one who had been listening to (and trusting in) God, after all. He was the real Prophet. The prophets of Baal? They were self-deceived impostors, false prophets with no legitimate place in God’s kingdom.

Which brings us to the question, how does Rick Warren know that God is blessing him and those ministries fashioned after his own?

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2 responses to “Discerndamentalist or Pharisee ?

  1. Eli

    August 19, 2011 at 11:42 am

    I know this is an old post, i’ve been reading through your blog, love it! But what Rick says about us “pharasees” brought to my remembrance a false-hood that I once believed. I used to think if a church was huge, large following, tons of money, then clearly they were “on the right track” and God was blessing them, they MUST be doing something right. And then one day the Holy Spirit corrected my thinking. When it comes to fruit, it’s not QUANITITY, its QUALITY! amen Lord.

     
    • Truthinator

      August 19, 2011 at 10:16 pm

      Thanks, Eli. Welcome to the Truthinator Blog. You are el correcto in your comment. I have nothing to add… Come again. Thanks for fighting the good fight!

       

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